The Solo: A Star Wars Story trailer finally dropped this week, and we gathered a couple of Film Goblins together to discuss it. Here is the inaugural edition of the Film Goblin Roundtable.
Darth Busey [12:16 PM]
Let’s get started. Joining me in today’s roundtable are Film Goblin’s Andy Dufresne, GottaHaveMyPops, The Spark That Bled, Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child, and Knittingknerd. Today’s discussion…the Solo: A Star Wars Story trailer. We saw two “trailers” over the weekend. The first, shorter teaser, aired during the Super Bowl, and contained some different imagery than the full 1:40 second trailer that was released yesterday.
Knittingknerd [ 12:16 PM]
Introductions: I’m Knittingknerd, Kim. Aries, enjoys a good drink, and my favorite Star Wars character was killed in the last movie
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:16 PM]
Han Solo had such a long career. Do you really have to go back to the beginning? Can’t a stand alone just be some other adventure he was involved in?
Darth Busey [12:17 PM]
@The Spark That Bled You’ve been pretty vocal about your distrust in what Lucasfilm has been doing with Star Wars. What was your first impression of the Super Bowl teaser?
Andy Dufresne [12:17 PM]
Andy Dufresne here. Not a writer at all, just a beginner, a fan of the film genre that fell out of a prison shit-pipe into a whole new world!
The Spark That Bled [12:17 PM]
It looks cool and your brain has been programmed to think STAR WARS!!.. but then my rational though kicks in and I think…this is crap.
Knittingknerd [ 12:18 PM]
I feel like we don’t need to see how Han became the character we saw in A New Hope. There’s no need. Seeing how the clones were created and thus the Fett family wasn’t all that great. It just was sad.
The Spark That Bled [12:18 PM]
They showed how Vader became Vader and they basically ruined it.
Knittingknerd [ 12:19 PM]
There are so many other characters to show in the Star Wars universe, literally galaxies full of characters, why go to Han?
The Spark That Bled [12:19 PM]
I don’t want to sound mean, but I am not 12 anymore and everything they have produced in the last 25 years doesn’t resonate with me at all
Darth Busey [12:20 PM]
Surely you knew that Disney was going to milk existing intellectual property for all it was worth right out of the gate, yes?
Andy Dufresne [12:20 PM]
Now that Disney has it’s three-fingered mitts all over the franchise, they’re gonna milk it for all it’s worth. The death knell has already started. It’s all about the dollar now.
Knittingknerd [12:20 PM]
Blue milk it.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:20 PM]
Disney have made it pretty clear they’re just mining the OT for nostalgia moments.
The Spark That Bled [12:20 PM]
Of course, but you can still tell a good story.
Knittingknerd [ 12:20 PM]
I’m a Disney dork. So there is my bias.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:21 PM]
I say they haven’t and why start now when all you have to do is show the Kessel Run or the modifications to the Falcon.
Darth Busey [12:21 PM]
To be fair, we have no idea if Solo is a good story or not. It’s hard to tell from a trailer, so let’s try not to force project, and instead just talk about the trailers themselves first. Question for all: was there anything *good* that you saw in the trailer?
The Spark That Bled [12:23 PM]
Nope. Take away Star Wars from it. Would you still want to watch that movie?
Knittingknerd [ 12:23 PM]
Starting at the top of the trailer it reminded me of the first JJ Star Trek movie.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:23 PM]
It looks expensive.
Andy Dufresne [12:23 PM]
I honestly had no interest in this film after hearing about all the behind the scenes trouble. I’m not a fan of prequels. The full trailer looks great in my opinion. For a trailer. They do know how to do outstanding visual effects. The problem I foresee is that the acting will be sub-par on the lead. Everyone will be expecting and seeing in their own mind a young Harrison Ford. The actor has a lot to carry to fill those expectations.
Darth Busey [12:23 PM]
Expensive is an interesting first impression. If I had to sum it up in one word, I’d say it looked “dreary”.
Knittingknerd [ 12:23 PM]
There were a couple of moments worthy of a chuckle. Everyone loves Woody Harrelson.
Andy Dufresne [12:24 PM]
@Knittingknerd Now we know where Han got “kid” from.
The Spark That Bled [12:24 PM]
CGI looks like video game cut scenes. The effects don’t exist in the same space/time as the rest of the actors and it’s obvious.
GottaHaveMyPops [12:25 PM]
Can I jump in about the CGI/look of the thing?
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:25 PM]
It doesn’t look like an adventure movie. Star Wars is an adventure. This looks like an expensive something else.
Andy Dufresne [12:25 PM]
Effects are usually tightened up for the movie and typically not completely finished for a trailer. So I’ve heard.
Knittingknerd [ 12:25 PM]
It looks like a caper movie.
A heist movie.
GottaHaveMyPops [12:25 PM]
It looks like the prequels.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:25 PM]
As long as they’re not stealing plans to some stupid super weapon I’m all for that.
The Spark That Bled [12:26 PM]
But they are stealing something correct?..It’s a heist movie.
Knittingknerd [ 12:26 PM]
I didn’t hate the prequels
Darth Busey [12:26 PM]
@GottaHaveMyPops That’s an interesting point. Abrams made a pretty big stink about “going back to practical effects where necessary”…why have the subsequent films abandoned that aesthetic?
Is this…as usual…all about the bottom line for Disney?
The Spark That Bled [12:27 PM]
Because it takes talent to create models.
GottaHaveMyPops [12:27 PM]
My immediate assumption would be that, due to all the reshoots, etc, they had to work quickly and did a lot of greenscreen.
Darth Busey [12:28 PM]
Every shot in the trailer looks like a greenscreen shot. I’d also say that the scene where everybody is in the Falcon cockpit looks like Lord & Miller shot it.
Knittingknerd [ 12:29 PM]
@Darth Busey that’s what I assumed. I figured that promo shot was from that scene.
Clarke’s hair and makeup were the same.
Darth Busey [12:29 PM]
Do you mean the one with the Imperial officer where Han is “interviewing”?
GottaHaveMyPops [12:29 PM]
Very grey and murky. I was expecting a more colorful look, somehow.
The Spark That Bled [12:30 PM]
looks like they spent 200 million dollars no one is going to remember in 5 years.
Darth Busey [12:30 PM]
The color palette is definitely more Rogue One than The Force Awakens.
Knittingknerd [ 12:30 PM]
Where they are all sitting around the cockpit smiling? And then the end of the trailer the same formation of people from the promo shot add the directors?
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:30 PM]
They had to spend more for reshoots. There’s literally two movies worth of money on screen.
The Spark That Bled [12:30 PM]
Because a gritty pallet makes up for lack of a well written gritty story.
Andy Dufresne [12:30 PM]
It should look dirty and dull, I think. That’s the world Han came from and where he ends up doing his thieving and sneaking about.
Knittingknerd [ 12:31 PM]
I hate gritty storytelling.
The Spark That Bled [12:31 PM]
I still can’t figure out Ron Howard’s color pallet choices for In The Heart Of The Sea…which is a movie I actually liked.
GottaHaveMyPops [12:31 PM]
But it doesn’t look dirty! Even the Falcon is shiny!
The Spark That Bled [12:31 PM]
So you dont like 70’s movie that much, Knittingknerd?
Andy Dufresne [12:31 PM]
When they do the Leia movie, it will be all shiny and chrome and Alderaan-y!
GottaHaveMyPops [12:32 PM]
Millie Bobbie Brown and the droids on Alderaan. 2022.
Knittingknerd [ 12:32 PM]
I just hate the new “everything must be gritty and dirty” things in movies in the last 10 years.
Darth Busey [12:32 PM]
A Leia movie is going to happen someday. It’s…inevitable.
Knittingknerd [ 12:32 PM]
Dark color palettes. It bothers my eyes
The Spark That Bled [12:32 PM]
It’s to counteract the false visuals of all the CGI.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:33 PM]
Agree with @Knittingknerd. They don’t need to look like that.
Andy Dufresne [12:33 PM]
@GottaHaveMyPops The Falcon is new. Speaking of the Falcon, I hate, hate, HATE the look of it! They’re doing that to explain off later what mods Han made to it. Stupid.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:33 PM]
Think pirate movies from Hollywood’s Golden Age.
GottaHaveMyPops [12:33 PM]
I blame Chris Nolan.
Darth Busey [12:33 PM]
Back to the trailer. We get our first look at Alden Ehrenreich as Han Solo. What are your preliminary thoughts on him?
Knittingknerd [ 12:33 PM]
Apparently Solo is a slob.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:33 PM]
Are his eyes crossed? The fuck was with his smile?
Knittingknerd [ 12:34 PM]
I want to like him. He was funny in Hail Caesar
But he’s short, right? Like barely 5’6”?
Andy Dufresne [12:34 PM]
He sort of has the look, a little of the cockiness. He’s got a helluva fight to face playing such an iconic character. I believe he’s in a lose-lose situation.
GottaHaveMyPops [12:34 PM]
This is pubescent Han. Before the growth spurt.
Knittingknerd [ 12:35 PM]
He’s 5’8”. I’m sorry. He is still shorter than me.
Darth Busey [12:35 PM]
Ehrenreich is 5’9″.
Ford is 6’2″, for what it’s worth.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:36 PM]
I’ll agree with it’s “lose, lose”. So why try to be Harrison Ford?
GottaHaveMyPops [12:36 PM]
6 inches? That’s nothing. Just ask my wife.
Darth Busey [12:36 PM]
I don’t know if he’s trying to be Harrison Ford in this. I didn’t get that impression, really.
Knittingknerd [ 12:36 PM]
(That’s funny @GottaHaveMyPops )
He doesn’t have the swagger. That’s what I noticed
Andy Dufresne [12:37 PM]
That’s what the fans want and expect. Lose-lose because if he doesn’t channel Ford, everyone will go apeshit “That’s not Han!”
GottaHaveMyPops [12:37 PM]
#notmyHan
Darth Busey [12:37 PM]
@Andy Dufresne Do you think “fans” wanted Anthony Ingruber?
Or CGI “young” Harrison Ford? Or…neither?
The Spark That Bled [12:39 PM]
Nobody knows who the fuck he is.
Knittingknerd [ 12:40 PM]
I feel like Disney did themselves a disservice with this stand alone movie. They took this iconic character that Harrison Ford was so good at, then wanted a prequel stand alone movie. No one could be Harrison Ford. Solo isn’t like Bond
Darth Busey [12:40 PM]
All of these properties are going to be re-cast at some point.
Andy Dufresne [12:41 PM]
Disney isn’t trying to please fans, so whats the point? I don’t know if Ingruber was in the running, so I guess we won’t know. It bothers me the most that they (Disney) are resorting to prequels instead of expanding the current universe. Their are so many stories to be told, but they comtinue to focus on the OT characters, which TWA and TLJ already ruined. CGI isn’t there yet to do a full movie with a “young” Ford. Rogue One proved that.
Knittingknerd [ 12:42 PM]
They could have done a great Yoda origin movie. No young actor. Just have Frank Oz do the voice.
Darth Busey [12:42 PM]
So Disney isn’t trying to please fans, they’re just trying to appeal to as many people as possible? If that’s the case…why are these movies not catching on in foreign markets?
Andy Dufresne [12:42 PM]
@Knittingknerd Exactly. They could have done a Lando movie, ending with him meeting Han. There is a backstory worth exploring.
Knittingknerd [ 12:43 PM]
Yep. I love Lando
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:44 PM]
Star Wars has been neglected and taken for granted for decades. Be it Lucas or Disney. That trailer is more proof of it.
Andy Dufresne [12:44 PM]
@Darth Busey Rian Johnson showed he didn’t give two shits about fan-service. He took the characters in directions that he knew would piss off the masses. I think word of mouth led to the poor performance overseas.
Darth Busey [12:45 PM]
“Playing it safe”…isn’t that what four quadrant tentpole moviemaking is all about?
The Spark That Bled [12:46 PM]
American markets are biased by 40 years of Star Wars merchandise rammed down our throats. Chinese kids don’t know who Greedo is…yet
Darth Busey [12:47 PM]
It sounds like most Chinese kids are never going to get the chance to learn who Greedo is, since the movie couldn’t last three weeks in the theaters over there.
Knittingknerd [ 12:47 PM]
I think we have been sooooo cognizant of Star Wars it has become part of our culture. Other countries, overseas markets, don’t have that.
Especially because isn’t the original Star Wars movie a take on a spaghetti western?
Darth Busey [12:48 PM]
So if overseas markets aren’t as hip about Star Wars…doesn’t that explain why Disney wants to “reinvent” all of these legacy characters, so that they can give them new introductions into these markets?
Or are they just throwing shit up against the wall to see what sticks?
Knittingknerd [ 12:49 PM]
Ohhhh
GottaHaveMyPops [12:49 PM]
Speaking of Greedo, will he and/or Jabba appear in the new flick?
Darth Busey [12:49 PM]
There’s a better than 3,720 to 1 chance of them appearing in the film. Boba Fett, too.
Andy Dufresne [12:50 PM]
@Darth Busey To make that money, yes. I can only assume Disney wanted a “woke” movie to play to the times. Laura Dern’s sacrificial lamb, Leia actually “awakening” in the dead of space. Luke drinking from the teat of capitalism. kathleen Kennedy ate it up
Knittingknerd [ 12:50 PM]
(I have mean thoughts on how Jabba would appear).
Andy Dufresne [12:50 PM]
Never tell me the odds, kid!
GottaHaveMyPops [12:50 PM]
Friend and I are putting together a checklist for our Solo opening night drinking game.
Darth Busey [12:50 PM]
Before talking about the drinking game details…Lando.
Knittingknerd [ 12:51 PM]
Oh my goodness!
Darth Busey [12:51 PM]
There’s only two very brief shots of Lando.
Knittingknerd [ 12:51 PM]
Apparently I told my mom I was going to marry Lando when I first saw him as a kid. So they had to get this right for me.
Darth Busey [12:52 PM]
Did they?
Andy Dufresne [12:52 PM]
I like Donald Glover. I think he’ll be fine. I actually like the cast, but Ehrenreich will have his work cut out for him.
Knittingknerd [ 12:52 PM]
I was super into the Billy Dee Williams as a child. Cape and all.
Billy Dee has swagger. He has charm and charisma to spare. Glover is cute and pocket sized.
Andy Dufresne [12:53 PM]
Young Lando hasn’t found his Colt 45 yet!
Knittingknerd [ 12:53 PM]
Put him in your pocket and savor him for later.
I just feel like in the brief moments we saw of him he didn’t have that “Let me steal the contents of your wallet and then I’ll steal your woman.”
Darth Busey [12:54 PM]
I thought it was interesting that Lando appears to have a robot co-pilot. I’m guessing that this is the CGI character that Phoebe Waller-Bridge is playing.
Didn’t we just see the robot co-pilot in Rogue One?
Who wants to bet that she’s “sassy”?
Also…do all droids have to have a British accent?
Andy Dufresne [12:57 PM]
British accents are sexy! Ha, they sell tickets!
Knittingknerd [ 12:57 PM]
All the characters looked too polished and perfect hair and makeup. All their facial hair looks perfectly done. And when you think of Han Solo he has fresh out of the sack hair. Chewie fresh out of the sack hair. Leia’s hair in the original trilogy was practical in a sense.
Darth Busey [12:57 PM]
I don’t know if any of you remember, but back in the 90’s, there was a Star Wars “Expanded Universe” property called Shadows of the Empire. One of the characters in that (Dash Rendar) had a sarcastic robot co-pilot, IIRC.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:57 PM]
Am I the only one that wants Star Wars, and Han in particularly, to be fun? To have a sense of fun?
Andy Dufresne [12:58 PM]
I remember reading that. Hell, that could have been the next trilogy instead of this.
Knittingknerd [ 12:58 PM]
That’s what bothered me. I was kind of irritated by the trailer, distracted by the perfect eyeliner.
Darth Busey [12:58 PM]
@ Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child No, I think we *all* want that!
There was also a trilogy of Young Han Solo novels written by A.C. Crispin in the 90s…some of what we saw in the trailer resembles what was in those books.
I find this interesting, since LFL made a big point of throwing all of the “expanded universe” stuff out when announcing The Force Awakens.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [12:59 PM]
That’s what I figured. The trailer takes that away for me. I see mood lighting and washed out colors and I think it’s another overly dramatic nihilist fest
Knittingknerd [ 12:59 PM]
(I wasn’t big on Star Wars expanded universe in the 1990s. I was reading the Jewel poetry book. Going to Lilith Fair)
Darth Busey [1:01 PM]
@ Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child How much of that could be because of the change of directors? As pointed out earlier…if they had to throw out a lot of scenes and re-shoot stuff, they had to greenscreen the entire film, and isn’t it easier/less jarring to d
Also, where was Zack Snyder during all of this?
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:02 PM]
Oh, you can hide a lack of quality that way very easily.
See Zack Snyder on that.
Knittingknerd [ 1:02 PM]
As seen by the Arrow universe.
Darth Busey [1:02 PM]
Zack Snyder was obviously at home, washing his tights.
GottaHaveMyPops [1:02 PM]
But Zack hates tights…. everyone must wear armor.
Andy Dufresne [1:03 PM]
I like Ron Howard’s film. I’m hoping that’s the saving grace for this one. Maybe he’ll be the one that “gets” Star Wars. We’ll find out.
Darth Busey [1:03 PM]
There appears to be some kind of landspeeder chase.
Somewhere, Jake Lloyd cries a single tear.
Knittingknerd [ 1:03 PM]
I don’t think Star Wars is that hard to get. People just try to take themselves too seriously.
Darth Busey [1:04 PM]
@Knittingknerd I don’t think Lord and Miller took themselves too seriously. Hence…why they were fired!
Knittingknerd [ 1:04 PM]
You have a giant dog like co-pilot that’s from the rain forest.
…. stupid Disney.
Darth Busey [1:04 PM]
They clearly tried to take this thing into a “less serious” direction.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:05 PM]
It looks like a depressing cartoon.
Knittingknerd [ 1:06 PM]
It just looks too polished for me.
Andy Dufresne [1:06 PM]
True and with Lawrence Kasdan on the screenplay, it may very well be good. I truly think you need to have an understanding about SW and what it represents to the fans. Lucas was notorious for saying he wrote it for him, not the fans. What he created just so happened to resonate with people since they were children. I understand taking it in a different direction, but you have to stay true to the source as well.
Knittingknerd [ 1:06 PM]
And it makes me sad Mayhew isn’t in this.
Darth Busey [1:06 PM]
All – where there any shots from the trailer that made you smile? I kinda liked the twisting monorail thing.
Knittingknerd [ 1:06 PM]
The Chewbacca stuff.
Darth Busey [1:07 PM]
As always, I have to be honest…I don’t like the new Chewie.
Knittingknerd [ 1:08 PM]
Peter Mayhew was a nurse’s aide. That detail always makes me smile.
Why not Busey?
Darth Busey [1:08 PM]
Peter Mayhew’s great impact was in the subtle head nods. This new guy doesn’t have it.
Andy Dufresne [1:08 PM]
I always like the Falcon flying throught he shit, but the different look of it threw me off. Chewbacca is always cool. Glover as Lando looking like he’s playing cards looked good. I hope they all bring their A game!
Mayhew spoke with his mannerisms as well, it’s a noticeable difference.
Knittingknerd [ 1:09 PM]
He studied body language
Darth Busey [1:09 PM]
I’m sure they got Mayhew to try and tutor him, but I’m not feeling it. I know that I have to get past it if I want to enjoy these films, since Mr. Mayhew is quite old now and all of these roles are going to be re-cast, but it’s been harder for me to move on than the other things.
Andy Dufresne [1:10 PM]
Sucks getting old, @Darth Busey!
Knittingknerd [ 1:10 PM]
Peter got a double knee replacement not that long ago. And bilateral pneumonia
Darth Busey [1:10 PM]
I’ve learned how to cheat death, so I wouldn’t know.
Back to the trailer HEY GUYS…IT’S THE KESSEL RUN!!!
Andy Dufresne [1:11 PM]
Was that the Kessel Run?
GottaHaveMyPops [1:11 PM]
The Kessel Run will be in the movie.
And it will be Kira (Qi’Ra?) who flies the Falcon during it.
Darth Busey [1:11 PM]
Apparently, the Kessel Run is the intergalactic version of the whirlpool in Pirates of the Caribbean, complete with giant octopus at the center of it.
Andy Dufresne [1:11 PM]
Of course it will!
As will Jabba, they’re saving that for a big reveal.
Knittingknerd [ 1:12 PM]
I want to imagine that versus seeing some Disney dork putting it on screen in a subpar version of what I imagined
Darth Busey [1:13 PM]
I can’t believe we’ve been chatting for almost an hour without talking about the giant space tentacles at the end of the trailer.
Andy Dufresne [1:14 PM]
That’s the problem with prequels. I’ve already created a backstory in my mind when I watched the originals. Prequels are pointless, you know the outcome. You know Han’s son takes him out like a punk.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:14 PM]
I don’t care about that at all. What else did Han do, anything?
Andy Dufresne [1:14 PM]
@Darth Busey Finish line for Kessel Run? Ha!
GottaHaveMyPops [1:15 PM]
I initially thought that was Space Slug Redux, Buse.
Darth Busey [1:15 PM]
@Andy Dufresne That’s something that most long-time fans had reservations about. We literally just saw Harrison Ford Han Solo get killed. And they immediately jump into a Han Solo movie?
Andy Dufresne [1:15 PM]
#metoo
Knittingknerd [ 1:15 PM]
I wanted to talk about Emilia Clarke’s perfect winged eyeliner and those bangs. Both require a lot of equipment to do and a pain in the ass to do. Which the Falcon doesn’t have a curling iron, a big brush, and stable enough to do winged liquid eyeliner.
Andy Dufresne [1:16 PM]
Exactly! Maybe this movie is his life flashing before his eyes as he’s falling into the pit! That’s how I would start the movie, Han falling through the air…
Knittingknerd [ 1:16 PM]
I sat there watching the trailer thinking “the fuck is this? That’s crazy girl eyeliner and hair.”
GottaHaveMyPops [1:16 PM]
Unless someone is seen putting on makeup in a movie, we, the viewers, are to understand that the character looks like that naturally.
Darth Busey [1:16 PM]
@Knittingknerd I’ll try to put this as professional-like as I can, but…Emilia Clarke looked great in the trailer.
Knittingknerd [ 1:16 PM]
Oh good point Andy.
Crazy girl eyeliner.
Andy Dufresne [1:17 PM]
Then end it with him hitting the ground like MaMa from Dread!
@Knittingknerd Hate to say it, but guys don’t think about that stuff. We just want you to get out of the bathroom so we can poo!
Darth Busey [1:18 PM]
@GottaHaveMyPops Yes, Chekhov’s Blowdryer, isn’t it?
If you show it, you have to use it later.
GottaHaveMyPops [1:19 PM]
Spoiler alert! Alden! Han dies at the end, and Ansel Elgort puts on his black vest and assumes his identity.
Darth Busey [1:20 PM]
That would be an incredible and ballsy twist. Of course Disney didn’t think of that.
GottaHaveMyPops [1:21 PM]
If you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, and if they can’t stop you, then you become something else entirely.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:21 PM]
I wouldnt mind seeing that at all.
Darth Busey [1:21 PM]
All in all, the trailer was better than I was expecting. That said, I have a very low bar for Star Wars nowadays.
GottaHaveMyPops [1:21 PM]
A legend, Mr. Solo.
Knittingknerd [ 1:21 PM]
Don’t we have to look at Studio contracts and who Ansel tends to work with?
Has Naboo shown up at all since the prequels?
Darth Busey [1:22 PM]
Even given the last few years…I don’t think anybody turns down the chance to be in a Star Wars movie.
Andy Dufresne [1:22 PM]
Although some should
Darth Busey [1:22 PM]
Direct a Star Wars movie, on the other hand…the list of people who have rejected that honor is long and distinguished.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:23 PM]
I’d think twice about it.
Darth Busey [1:23 PM]
Does this potentially end Ehrenreich’s career?
Knittingknerd [ 1:23 PM]
I’d have fun writing one.
GottaHaveMyPops [1:23 PM]
@Knittingknerd if I may be permitted the briefest of O.T. asides…. My gut tells me that Episode IX is going to tie into some stuff from the Prequels. Full circle and all that.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:23 PM]
Of all these dumb movies a Han Solo one has the best chance of being unique and original.
Knittingknerd [ 1:23 PM]
In what way Busey?
Darth Busey [1:24 PM]
If this movie bombs, does Ehrenreich take the hit, and is considered radioactive for any “big name” movie going forward?
Knittingknerd [ 1:24 PM]
That’s why I was asking @GottaHaveMyPops I think this may bring up the prequels.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:24 PM]
@GottaHaveMyPops IX will have Anakin and Luke back to back in a sword battle with other ghosts. Mark it down.
Andy Dufresne [1:24 PM]
Nah, he’ll be fine. He’s not a big enough name for it to be a career killer.
GottaHaveMyPops [1:24 PM]
All the ghosts. Yoda, Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon….
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:25 PM]
What other stuff does this kid do?
Darth Busey [1:25 PM]
Is there any possible way that Ehrenreich can give a good performance in a bad Solo movie? Does the movie live and die on our ability to buy him in the role?
Knittingknerd [ 1:25 PM]
I heard something about Hayden prepping for movies.
Darth Busey [1:25 PM]
Hayden works craft services now?
GottaHaveMyPops [1:25 PM]
I wonder if Hayden is better at acting 15 years on?
Andy Dufresne [1:26 PM]
Haven’t seen him in anything else, heard he was in Hail Caesar.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:26 PM]
Yes he can. He isn’t Harrison Ford and going in I understand that and don’t need him to do pantomime or whatever for two hours
Knittingknerd [ 1:26 PM]
Alden was okay in Beautiful Creatures. The book was crap
Darth Busey [1:27 PM]
@ Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child OK, for the record, you personally have no problem if they take liberties with the Solo character, so long as the movie itself is fun and entertaining.
Some people are going in with a mental checklist. “He better tell somebody to never tell him the odds”, etc…
Knittingknerd [ 1:29 PM]
I wonder if Alden has watched the new movies to try to get some of Adam Driver’s body language. So they look like father and son body language wise.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:29 PM]
I’m not going to compare him critically towards Harrison Ford. I just don’t think thats fair in the least. What I want to see from FNG is a decent performance, he’s a young Han Solo, before A New Hope (hopefully not right up to it, looking at you Rogue One. You shit.) So I think he can bring his own swagger, if he has any, to it.
Darth Busey [1:29 PM]
I wonder if Alden has watched the original Star Wars!
Some actors say that they don’t want to see a prior performance of a character, so that they don’t subliminally do an impression.
Knittingknerd [ 1:30 PM]
And that’s a question. A lot of younger people were introduced to Star Wars via the prequels. So he may not have seen the original movies
Andy Dufresne [1:31 PM]
I’ll give it a chance. Not gonna get my hopes up after The Last Jedi but I’ll still go see it. I hope it does well and brings something substantial to the franchise.
Darth Busey [1:31 PM]
Tom Holland said he had never seen The Empire Strikes Back.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:32 PM]
Isn’t the big problem with these films that they are just impressions of things we remember from the OT? A different take on Han Solo to me is a breath of fresh air frankly.
Roger Moore wasn’t Sean Connery, etc.
Darth Busey [1:32 PM]
And yet Rian Johnson gave a “different take” on Luke Skywalker, and we all saw how that turned out.
Andy Dufresne [1:33 PM]
@Darth Busey Exactly!
Knittingknerd [ 1:33 PM]
But like I said earlier Solo isn’t Bond.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:33 PM]
That’s what you call not trying hard enough.
Darth Busey [1:33 PM]
Let’s wrap this up. Everybody, please give a final statement on this trailer, and whether it’s encouraged or discouraged you about the film’s prospects.
Knittingknerd [ 1:34 PM]
I will see it. I probably will see it at a 10 am showing with my sister. And I will probably make inappropriate jokes the entire time.
Then get pancakes.
Andy Dufresne [1:34 PM]
I’ll give Solo a chance. Not gonna get my hopes up after The Last Jedi but I’ll still go see it. I hope it does well and brings something substantial to the franchise. The trailer has my interest peaked more than before, but I’m cautiously optimistic about any prequel series.
Dom_Deluise’s_Armpit_Child [1:34 PM]
It’s going to be expensive, washed out and probably too long. Likely forgettable.
The Spark That Bled [1:36 PM]
I have no intention of liking this movie.
Andy Dufresne [1:36 PM]
@The Spark That Bled HAHA!
The Spark That Bled [1:37 PM]
Anyone else not wearing pants?
GottaHaveMyPops [1:37 PM]
If it’s any good, it’ll be despite the best efforts of everyone involved.
Andy Dufresne [1:38 PM]
#neverwearpantsathomealone
Darth Busey [1:39 PM]
Much like a blaster, the handling of this movie has been random and clumsy, as well.
As I’ve noted previously, I’m willing to give this movie a chance, although Star Wars as a franchise is on a pretty short leash with me nowadays. I found some of the imagery in the trailer to be visually striking, but I will no longer plop down my money to see Star Wars movies without some kind of good word of mouth from now on.
My thanks to all of the Gobs for taking 80 minutes out of their busy days to talk about a 1 minute and 40 second trailer.
Until next time.
